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The 2008-09 confirmation has begun.

The 2008-09 steward elections are a good opportunity to check if we are still happy with our current stewards. To make the process as smooth as possible, here is how things are organized.

To comment, please log in with an account that has edits (on any wiki) before February 1st 2009. During the 2009 elections, please mention if you are unhappy with one of the persons listed below and why. For example, you may mention inactivity or negative behaviour. Inactive stewards, as stated in the steward policies, will lose their steward access.

At the end of the elections, the current and newly elected stewards will consider complaints left on this page, and choose to remove stewardship as necessary taking into account both the comments left by community and their own perspective and understanding of the job. All stewards will go through this process after each election.

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Comments about .anaconda

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The following discussion is closed: Resigned.

Hello, I was thinking on resigning in the last days due to inactivity - this is the reason I ignored this page; just done. Thanks for expressing your opinion. --.anaconda 23:18, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]


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Comments about Andre Engels

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The following discussion is closed: Confirmed. Nihil Obstat Effeietsanders 01:50, 22 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Personal info: I've been a steward since 2004 and I hope to continue being useful in this area. I also chair the Wikimedia:Advisory Board and help with Wikimania (jury and program). I'm an admin on meta, the English Wikipedia, and the advisory and foundation wikis. I haven't been as active as I'd planned to be this time last year due to spending all my spare time on planning my wedding! Since that happened (in November), I have been more active within Wikimedia generally and plan to continue this. The steward areas I focus on are changing rights and deleting cross-wiki spam (example). I'm happy to do other steward tasks as well like SUL requests and global blocks but at least in the past couple of months, there have been no requests that weren't already handled immediately by a few super-active stewards! I'm in #wikimedia-stewards if I'm on IRC and can easily be reached by email in emergencies as I'm online 16 hours a day.

Comments about Angela

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The following discussion is closed: Confirmed, no objections. —Pathoschild 01:56:03, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

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  • Personal info: I have been a steward since the first election. I am also admin on fr.wiki, en.wiki, and commons as well as bureaucrat on fr.wiki. I am a founding member of Wikimedia France and a past trustee (and chair !) of Wikimedia Foundation. I currently mostly edit on fr.wiki, as well as a bit sometimes commons and fr.books (though often unloggued). And I do quite a lot at the chapter level. To be fair, my activity as steward in the past year has been low (hmmm, very low). First because as trustee, it was simply not a good idea to use these tools. And then I took a psychological break. But I'll be happy to help more in the coming year. I am usually available on irc as well for urgent needs. Cheers

Comments about Anthere

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  • Personal info: I was elected steward in 2006, and while I'm not as active as some other stewards in general duties, due to my role as Volunteer Coordinator for the Foundation, I still feel I have something to offer as a steward and believe I can still be trusted with the steward buttons. Thanks.

Comments about Bastique

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  • Personal info: I have been a steward since Dec 2006. I started grad school this year, which has reduced my activity a good bit. I am still about and I regularly follow the mailing list, and keep an eye out for new requests on wiki (though they are almost always done before I see them, some of the other stewards are doing too good of a job :) ). I expect to be much more active in the next few months and I will always be available for emergencies.

Comments about Cspurrier

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  • Personal info: I was nominated and elected as one of the original stewards back in 2004. From mid 2004 to mid 2006 I was Wikimedia Chief Financial Officer and helped with the 2007-2008 drive. Because of that, many of my steward actions were related to fundraising drives. After the 2007-2008 drive I took a long - and much needed - wikibreak from Wikimedia activities. Since coming back in November 2008, I have helped comment on requests and set user rights on a sporadic basis due to the inconvenience of editing under one global account and performing steward actions under another. That is now fixed. If confirmed, I promise to maintain a higher level of steward activity.

Comments about Daniel Mayer (mav)

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  • Personal info: Darkoneko, 27 years old, bureaucrat @ frwiki. I sometimes make a mistake or two during my stewards activities, but I think I'm doing a correct job overall.

Comments about Darkoneko

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Comments about Dbl2010

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Comments about DerHexer

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The following discussion is closed: Confirmed. Nihil Obstat Effeietsanders 02:03, 22 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Personal info: Stats: I'm sysop at 6 or 7 wikis, checkuser on 3, been wikimedian for 5 years. As inter-wiki people know, my work these days as stewards is dealing with vandalbots and the alike. So here I'm on my 2nd confirmation to get feedback on my work as steward. Thank you for your input.

Comments about Drini

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And sir, oh please explain me the high moral ground on canvassing? [7] [8] [9] es:Drini 21:44, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Ad hominem attacks only serve to highlight your lack of suitability for the position. These users have a unique knowledge of your actions. Would you expect me to open a Request for comment on your actions and link to it here? Exactly what would you say was the ideal way to let people know about abusive behavior and the forum to comment on it? Perhaps leave a messgage on every user′s page on all the projects? Notifying three people of this election without suggesting what they say is hardly canvassing. I believe my friendly notification falls under [[10]]. It was sent to three people(limited number) and neutrally worded. Please explain how this is a violation of WP:CANVASS or is this another mendacious twisting of something that you cannot not know is not canvassing. If you do not understand the policy on canvassing to correctly identify it, then I realy question on more grounds you ability to serve as a steward.Die4Dixie 22:28, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
None of this has anything to do with stewardship. Drini is probably one of the best stewards we've ever had. You're essentially saying you're opposing him continuing his good work because he blocked you. Canvassing to people to get them to attempt to come and sabotage this discussion in your favour hasn't helped you one bit either. Please consider your future actions more carefully. Thanks, Majorly talk 22:49, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict)I'm not familiar with meta-wiki or non-English projects but I seriously doubt Die4Dixie's incident is going to overturn anybody's candidacy for anything - the other comments are universally in support. Thus, I suggest all parties keep some decorum here and not get into wiki-arguing. I think the handling of Die4Dixie's block on English Wikipedia was unfortunate (a block for reasons poorly stated and seemingly mistaken, possibly not as a neutral party, followed by being unavailable for a day). Also, even though as Majorly points out Stewardship is very different than adminship, because of the increased authority it should be even more important that one keep a calm head, not play favorites, not get into grudges or matches with individual editors, etc. It is normal that the target of a block will be upset and make accusations, reasonable ones and otherwise, and perhaps even speak out of turn. Turning the other cheek and dealing with that in a firm but dignified way so that the blocked party can, hopefully, cool down and rejoin the editing process is also part of the job of administering blocks. The strong protest against alleged canvassing seems defensive, and piling on. Having said all that, and with all due respect to D4D and his (in my opinion) reasonable upset, I don't see this as anything to disqualify a candidate. No lasting harm done on either side, so please let it go. Wikidemon 23:06, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Btw sometimes Drini you yourself are soft with canvassing, so we're all to blame anyway--Vituzzu 20:23, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Personal info: Well, I've been a steward for a year now. A quite active one, at that. Not much has changed since I was elected. My statement from roughly a year ago pretty much sums it all. Moreover, I enjoyed serving the community as a steward and hope to be able to keep contributing in the following period.

Comments about Dungodung

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  • Personal info: In the past year I've been more and more busy with other Wikimedia related activities behind the screens (Wikimania, Wikimedia Netherlands, Wikimedia Conference Netherlands), and therefore my activity dropped unfortunately in the past year as a steward. A part of the reasonification behind this is however too that the work is quite perfectly being done by an existing group of stewards, so that when I take a look at the todo's, there doesn't seem to be much left for me to do. Therefore, I would not have huge problems with it if my inactivity would turn out to be a problem for reconfirmation. On the other side, I hope to be able to stay available for emergencies etc, still being able to help out when needed.

Comments about Effeietsanders

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The following discussion is closed: Confirmed, no objections. —Pathoschild 02:04:54, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

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  • Personal info: I try to help and make myself useful as a steward when I'm around; I'd be happy to continue to serve the Wikimedia community. More info about me on my userpage.

Comments about guillom

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The following discussion is closed: Confirmed. Nihil Obstat Effeietsanders 02:03, 22 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Comments about Jimbo Wales

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The following discussion is closed: By Jimbo's request, the Board requested the creation of a founder group for Jimbo. He has been switched to that group accordingly.


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  • Personal info: I’ve been a steward since the beginning of 2006. I have not been as active as I would like the past year, due to a combination of other (newer) stewards being very efficient, and being busy with other obligations (both on and off wiki). I would, however, like to continue, and hopefully become more active than I have been lately.

Comments about Jon Harald S?by

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The following discussion is closed: Confirmed. Nihil Obstat Effeietsanders 02:03, 22 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Personal info: I became a steward after the December 2007 election with very wide supports. I am an administrator on Meta, Wikimedia Commons (also bureaucrat), Multilingual Wikisource, English Wikisource, Chinese Wikisource (also bureaucrat), English Wikipedia, Chinese Wikipedia, English Wiktionary, Chinese Wiktionary (also bureaucrat), English Wikiquote (also checkuser), Chinese Wikiquote (also bureaucrat). Being an administrator on 11 Wikimedia sites plus non-Wikimedia Wikilivres:, including being a bureaucrat on 4 Wikimedia sites and a checkuser on 1 Wikimedia site, is very busy, but I like to serve fellow users as much as I can and I am willing to continue serving. I am mostly active on Chinese Wikisource, but I also normally visit other sites with my administrator flag at least once a week. Right here on Meta, my most applied steward task is to promote new bots, but sometimes I also check Steward requests/Checkuser.

Comments about Jusjih

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  • Personal info: I became a steward after the December 2007 election. I also hold admin rights on en:wp, Commons, and Meta (I gave it up on en:ws), 'crat on commons and meta, CU on en:wp, commons and meta, and oversight on Commons. I am one of the folk that handle access to the CU and Steward mailing lists as well. I think I've been fairly active at the various steward tasks, and I have plans to continue doing so. I welcome your feedback.

Comments about Lar

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  • Personal info: Bureaucrat on meta.wiki, sysop on it.wiki and on simple.wiki, I'm pleased to give a hand for Wikimedia general housekeeping as well. Sometimes I help with translations and OTRS cleaning up. I was one of the founder members of Wikimedia Italia.

Comments about M7

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The following discussion is closed: Confirmed. Nihil Obstat Effeietsanders 02:03, 22 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Languages: sr (hr, bs, sh), en-3, ru-2, cu-2, mk-2, sl-2, bg-2, be-1, uk-1, ry-1
  • Personal info: Last couple of months I reduced my activities as a steward because of my other Wikimedian duties (NomCom, ChapCom, LangCom as well as some other organizational issues). However, whenever I am able, I am online at #wikimedia-stewards channel and ready to handle requests. Usually, I am trying to cover tasks which are not so regularly covered, like keeping night shifts (early morning in Europe and night in Americas) is. I am giving my mandate to the community: if there are at least 30 votes in favor of removing my steward rights and 50%+1 majority, I will resign.

Comments about Millosh

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logs: rights, globalauth, gblblock, gblrights, crosswiki | translate: translation help, statement

English:
  • Languages: it, vec, en-2, fr-1, es-1
  • Personal info: I'm bureaucrat here on meta, on vec.wiki and on it.wikt, member of SWMT. I became a steward after the December 2007 election. I try to help everywhere I can, I'm often available on IRC, happy to give a hand on permissions queue on meta. Lately, I've been little busy with "real life", but I'm ready to keep working!

Comments about Nick1915

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logs: rights, globalauth, gblblock, gblrights, crosswiki | translate: translation help, statement

English:
  • Languages: nl, en-3, de-3, fr-3, es-2, it-2, sv-1, af-1, tr-1, la-1
  • Personal info: "assume good faith" could rather mean "trustworthy people who have after a time become less active can use their extra tools even when used very sparingly" it will lead to a greater evolutionary diversity in a group with certain rights. nobody of course "needs" such tools, i do not "need" such tools, except to now and then perform a freely chosen job or task. demotion (please remove this guy) rather may make people be a stranger, whereas in my philosophy extended-rights communities should always be kept growing on a healthy wiki; after all, at least here, we are *not* competing for lots of soil. oscar 12:33, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comments about Oscar

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logs: rights, globalauth, gblblock, gblrights, crosswiki | translate: translation help, statement

English:
  • Languages: it, en-3, ru-2, de-1, fr-1, es-1
  • Personal info: Bureaucrat on it:wp, founder member and former president of the Italian chapter. I haven't been very active in the community during the last year, both as a steward and on my "home" wiki. I leave the decision about keeping my steward flag to the community.

Comments about Paginazero

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The following discussion is closed: Resigned.

Criticism acknowledged - I just resigned. --Paginazero - ? 11:02, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

logs: rights, globalauth, gblblock, gblrights, crosswiki | translate: translation help, statement

English:

Comments about Pathoschild

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logs: rights, globalauth, gblblock, gblrights, crosswiki | translate: translation help, statement

English:
  • Languages: en, es-3, la-2, it-2, ar-1
  • Personal info: While the logs make it look as though I'm somewhat inactive, in fact I make myself available on IRC on a very regular basis and respond as necessary to requests of various kinds, not all of which result in user rights changes. I have contributed extensively to the documentation and policies relating to stewards, and have periodically introduced formatting changes, minor and major, to ensure the continued efficient functioning of SR/P (formerly RFP). My extra-Wikimedia commitments make it somewhat unlikely that my log-evidenced activity will rise much in the next year, but this does not mean I am absent from Meta -- it only means I am rarely the first one to jump on a new request. I intend to maintain my regular presence on IRC, and if confirmed I will continue to perform steward tasks at every opportunity. — Dan

Comments about Rdsmith4

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  • Fine for me, though could be a tad more active. Majorly talk 00:43, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Does good work, but I agree I'd like to see more of it.  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 02:13, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    Additionally, I'll note that the suggestion that transferring rights from one account to another is inappropriate is a tad silly, IMO. The point of stewards not changing rights (etc) on their home wiki is to prevent a conflict of interest. Since essentially nothing changed in this case, there can be no conflict of interest. If he had promoted someone to sysop who wasn't previously, we might have something worth talking about.  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 18:59, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Not really active, but not inactive enough to remove, does a good job when around. Prodego talk 03:43, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • 150 right changes in 2 years is tad too low but is generally around all the time, has my trust :) ..confirm..--Cometstyles 03:45, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sage advice on IRC. Active enough. ++Lar: t/c 04:29, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Confirm. Good work. MBisanz talk 06:41, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Good work. ? Elfix × talk (fr) 11:09, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Often helping via IRC, good work as steward, thanks, --birdy geimfyglie (:> )=| 01:38, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep --Fabexplosive The archive man 10:19, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • cf. Birdy. Regards, —DerHexer (Talk) 12:36, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Coimeád - though quiet - Alison ? 19:45, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Endorse. Keep up the good work. - Mailer Diablo 04:19, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • In my opinion, this transfer was an inappropriate use of steward rights on your home wiki. John Vandenberg 07:29, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    I disagree, how is it? Majorly talk 16:38, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    All promotions should be done on the local wiki. It's a minor point, but it's an important one that dates back to the beginning of stewardship. --MZMcBride 19:36, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    MZM: This was not a new promotion but a transfer of rights. I seem to remember I decided to do both rights changes at Meta so as to keep them in the same log, hoping that this would minimize confusion and not give the impression that it was an unwarranted new promotion. I figured this consideration was more important than the convention that all promotions must be done locally. It seems to me that the relevant principle here is that stewards shouldn't grant sysop flags on wikis that have local bureaucrats; but I'm also a bureaucrat at en.wiki, so that problem is neutralized.
    But I think John was suggesting that I shouldn't be changing rights on en.wiki from Meta at all, since that's my home project. To this I can only respond that (1) I was executing a request made by the user, and not making any decisions of my own, so there is no possibility of conflicting interests; and (2) my actions caused no controversy nor provoked any objections whatsoever, precisely because I was doing no more than executing a request. I have argued for quite a while that the old prohibition on stewards changing rights on their home wikis is unnecessary in cases that involve no active decision-making. In fact, this is why we agreed a while back to change the relevant section of the policy to read "... except for clearcut cases (such as self-requested removal or emergencies)". — Dan | talk 23:28, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    I agree with this and further will say that I've done the very same thing. I don't think clear cut, non controversial items like this are problematic... a shift is not a promotion. ++Lar: t/c 03:52, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    Where could I go about attempting to change the policy that says admins can uncontroversially have their adminship transferred to a new account without any sort of on wiki record or process for this? I'm frustrated by secret adminship transfers (there are a handful of en.wiki admins who can't be traced to an RFA at all) and would like to at least express my opinion against this anti-transparent practice. --JayHenry 04:31, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    Either individual wikis (every "completely untraceable" one on en:wp that I am aware of (because the transfer didn't happen as a matched pair here) was done with awareness of en:wp ArbCom) to address it wiki by wiki, or perhaps the talk page for Steward policies, here. There is no way to escape an onwiki record (without developer intervention) in the case of a rights transfer... you'll always find record of the removal half it in the user rights log here. (But I think you mean something a bit more formal/direct/explicit than just a log entry) Further, doing both halves of the transfer here (turn off and turn on) means it's a bit easier to track, at least in my view, than if one half is done here (the turn off) and the other half elsewhere, because you can see what was done and it's paired. You have to know to come here to find it, of course. ++Lar: t/c 13:42, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    I meant an on en.wiki record, and I'm certainly not sure where Arbcom derived the authority to grant secret adminship transfers. (I became aware of this secret transfer issue when I noticed a complete spookadmin engaging in behavior I felt was harassment of someone I was trying to work with. Where can an editor like myself even begin to set that straight? Certainly not with ArbCom 2007-08 which felt entitled to create spookadmins in the first place.) But my point is actually a bit broader. It seems to me there are only two scenarios, either 1) if an admin asks a Steward to transfer their admin rights to some other account, this is permitted without condition (and I see no evidence this has ever been any sort of supported ideal) or 2) Dan did make a decision of his own. --JayHenry 04:43, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    Dan is correct in assuming I am mostly concerned about this action being done by a steward on their home wiki. This was not a clearcut case as it isnt supported by enwiki policy or common practise. The request should have been posted onto meta, with explanation and justification, and evaluated by another steward who is not active in enwiki. At least then there would be an opportunity for community discussion, and an unbiased decision maker. You did "decide" that the request was appropriate and did not need any community discussion. John Vandenberg 08:28, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    Eh? Bish is hardly the first person to deal with bit transfers. Ocee and H both dealt with similar things. --MZMcBride 18:43, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I am certainly aware of the problem of transparency; in fact, I asked the user in question to announce the change openly on her userpage (which she did, though the page is now deleted; for what it's worth, the revision is [23]). Had she not wished to do so, I would not have granted the request. I further informed her that if there were any objections I would reverse the change. I took my action to be validated by the fact that no objections ever came to my attention (until this moment of course). And when secrecy is not an issue, a transfer of rights seems to me just the kind of mere formality that stewards are accustomed to handle.
If it turns out that an agreement now emerges that this sort of thing should not be done, then we will know for sure not to do it in the future, and I will naturally abide by that decision. But at the time I did the transfer, and apparently for eleven months afterward, it seems not to have been understood as problematic in any way. And if it can be argued that on some understanding what I did amounted to a "judgment" or a "decision", then it was no more than the minimal amount of judgment or decision that is involved in any steward action -- if a steward really were to make no decisions at all, he or she would do exactly nothing. With respect, I believe that my actions were appropriate to the state of opinion at the time, and I hope they will not be held against me if and when the state of opinion begins to change. — Dan | talk 19:28, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I think that's well said and I don't think at all that you should be removed as a Steward. But going forward I'd like to discourage the practice of blithely shifting adminship from one account to another. It is not silly; the shifting is confusing (not to mention frustrating and even unfair to all the outsiders), makes it difficult to find the RFA, a deleted user page is a pretty tough barrier to get past for an ordinary editor, it breaks the log of admin actions in half, not to mention the actual editing contributions, etc. Another point, Dan, is that while I'm hardly a noob I was unable to figure out who gave Bishzilla adminship rights. I don't know how to navigate around the logs that well. Personally I like Bish, and my concern has nothing to do with her. It's that what happened was completely opaque. --JayHenry 05:29, 6 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

logs: rights, globalauth, gblblock, gblrights, crosswiki | translate: translation help, statement

English:
  • Languages: pt, en-4, es-3, fr-3, it-3, de-2, la-2, cs-1, ro-1, da-0, nl-0
  • Personal info: As it is obvious from the logs, I had a somewhat extended leave of absence recently. This was not limited to my activities as Steward. I was absent from all projects, including my home wiki and other projects to which I do work with atl least some degree of regularity. I have, as of December, begun returning to activities. I will take this opportunity to say here what I said to my local community on my home wiki: I do apologize to the community for my absence, but I really was overwhelmed by my off-wiki life. But of course, the community expects me to be available to use the tools entrusted to me whenever it may be required, which I fully intend to continue to do. In my normal activities, I am usually more present with regards to user permissions and oversight.

Comments about Redux

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logs: rights, globalauth, gblblock, gblrights, crosswiki | translate: translation help, statement

English:
  • Languages: en, fr-2
  • Personal info: I am not one of the most active stewards (I'm always busy with school), but I am always available in #wikimedia-stewardsconnect to help users and handle emergencies, and I work on the occasional miscellaneous task (like the transition of wiki-is-locked messages to local site notices, after locking was changed to a permissions-based method). I would like to continue doing so. See my user page for my other contributions.

Comments about Shanel

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logs: rights, globalauth, gblblock, gblrights, crosswiki | translate: translation help, statement

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Comments about Shizhao

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The following discussion is closed: Removed during the elections. —Pathoschild 02:18:20, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
  • I would like to note that should Shizhao wish to resume his steward role after his term of ombudsman is up, he should need only go through the reconfirmation process, and not an entire election. bastique demandez! 20:13, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Bastique, the reconfirmation should be done now, not in one year, when nobody remembers him anymore. @Shizhao, sorry, but I think you are too much involved into steward activity like checkusering on zhwiki, which is your home wiki. Additionally, you were not available on IRC during the last year, at least not that I knew of. --Thogo (talk) 01:33, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I agree with Thogo, I don't think it should be tolerated that a steward does checks on his home wiki, best regards, --birdy geimfyglie (:> )=| 02:21, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Spacebirdy, As your probably know, the matter has been addressed on the appropriate Requests for comments/Shizhao's use of steward privilages page. Chinese wikipedia is a large wikipedia with plenty of vandals and trolls but at the same time it suffers from not being able to elect any checkuser, for the unique political situation in the Chinese speaking world. Please bear that in mind, Thogo and Spacebirdy - Shizhao was simply doing his duty; since, apart from Shizhao and Jusjih, no other steward has sufficient knowledge of Chinese; and however capable you are, as I have seen, you simply cannot provide support as efficiently as Shizhao did. Shizhao is aware of the checkuser policy; but in certain cases, the community waited for over a week for urgent CU-requests. Hillgentleman 10:28, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • No, the community did not have to wait for urgent cases this year. They did simply not put it on the requestpage if that was so. Also besides the requestpage there is #wikimedia-stewardsconnect for urgent requests where always many stewards are available, also those who do not watch the requestpages so closely, but are eager to help, and he knows of that channel and Shizaho could have easily passed it on to a steward of his trust and assisted with understanding the request in translating. The rfc does not interest me, I waited for the confirmation where I can put my objection, because this is the place to do that. I am sorry, but I don't think that this should have happened, exactly for the reason why there are no local checkusers on zh.wiki. And that he understands the local language and others not does not count, there are many other languages no steward speaks, but the others managed to ask someone to translate an edit for them etc... Best regards, --birdy geimfyglie (:> )=| 12:24, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
      • Actually, few Chinese wikipedians use irc. Surprised? They use skype or emails much more. And I appreciate that you at least acknowlege there exists a prior discussion. It is rather hasty to say "he understands the local language and others not does not count"; You need to know the language to understand the problem efficiently. As you know, the log goes stale in 7 days; and I have seen precious time wasted when the Wikipedians tried to explain to the stewards their problems with their good intentions but no-so-good command in English. Chinese wikipedia is maintained by a relatively small number of wikipedians but it invites a large number of vandals, some quite serious. And they are not helped by anti-vandal bots. An For the rest, I have said enough before. Hillgentleman 12:49, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
        • I did not say that Chinese Wikipedians should use IRC, but Shizaho can, or he could have used the mailinglist and asked anyone for using skype... But he did not, he checked himself and I object to that. It is not even clear why all these accounts were checked, no reason were given. Also it is not hasty to say that, we have to do checks in other languages as well, as said. And we ask for translations of edits then, or a trusted sysop for the problems and situation. There is this rule not to do that in Your home project, either we stick to the rules or You can propose to change that. You can have another opinion and express it and I respect that, but You will have to respect my opinion too, thanks, --birdy geimfyglie (:> )=| 12:51, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
          • No problems; I understand Your point, and I agree with Your principles. I just wanted to bring out the fact that the case is not as simply black-and-white as a casual reader may think. Hillgentleman 17:19, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • As I stated in the RFC, performing CU requests on one's home wiki is to be avoided and I expect that will be in the future. I'm somewhat alarmed to see Spacebirdy say that there were no reasons given for running the check - I thought the requests that were being done were at least listed on SRCU and had valid reasons, as Wing stated. That Shizhao is now on the Ombudsman Commission is a bit uncomfortable at present... I'd appreciate some clarity from anyone who can provide it.  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 18:55, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Support Support. We both as only Chinese stewards administer many Chinese wikis very well. We cannot find at least two Chinese Wikipedians interested in checking users locally.--Jusjih 22:33, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Keep No reason why ombudsman wouldn't keep stewardship. --Millosh 13:30, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • remove per Thogo. --FiliP × 17:51, 21 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

logs: rights, globalauth, gblblock, gblrights, crosswiki | translate: translation help, statement

English:
  • Languages: en, de-2, es-2, fr-2
  • Personal info: statement here

Comments about Sj

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logs: rights, globalauth, gblblock, gblrights, crosswiki | translate: translation help, statement

English:
  • Languages: de, es-3, en-2, is-2, fr-2
  • Personal info: The following services are provided by me: Handling of the requests at all requestpages on Meta [24] ([25], [26], [27], [28]), collaboration in the SWMT-area [29], provision and maintanance of an internationally frequently used FAQ-, help- and problem-solving-page [30].

Comments about Spacebirdy

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The following discussion is closed: Confirmed. Nihil Obstat Effeietsanders 02:03, 22 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Final statement

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Kind thanks to everyone who participated and especially for the comments and the support, herzlichen Dank, muchas gracias, k?rar takkir, merci beaucoup, --birdy geimfyglie (:> )=| 02:47, 22 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

logs: rights, globalauth, gblblock, gblrights, crosswiki | translate: translation help, statement

English:
  • Languages: de, en-3, es-1, fr-1, ru-1, la-1, ar-1, ne-1
  • Personal info: I try to help out where possible (and as long as my schedule allows it).

Comments about Thogo

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logs: rights, globalauth, gblblock, gblrights, crosswiki | translate: translation help, statement

English:
  • Languages: nl, en-3, fr-1
  • Personal info: Hi, I thought the least I could do was to say that I am still interested to continue to serve as steward. I do not claim to be very active as steward but I am active, and even more then it looks at first glance from the logs. If you have questions or remarks please ask. Greetings, --Walter 10:37, 25 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comments about Walter

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logs: rights, globalauth, gblblock, gblrights, crosswiki | translate: translation help, statement

English:
  • Languages: pl, en-4, de-2
  • Personal info: I try to be around in order to help in some "critical" situations. Perhaps not always following the requests page, I am usually reachable via IRC and therefore can react "on sight".

Comments about Wpedzich

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A lesson to be learnt for sure - I had a feeling the name changes were being waited on long enough, and the local bureaucrats, although existent, were hard to reach in my opinion, therefore my decision. As I said, a lesson for me. Thanks for the criticism. Wojciech P?dzich Talk 10:23, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

logs: rights, globalauth, gblblock, gblrights, crosswiki | translate: translation help, statement

English:
  • Languages: fr, en-3, hi-2, gu-1
  • Personal info: I am steward since 2005, and admin on several projects. I am also check user on Commons. I am a founding member of Wikimedia France. I am still interested by stewardship. Even if I am not very active, I am always available via IRC to answer to urgent requests.

Comments about Yann

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logs: rights, globalauth, gblblock, gblrights, crosswiki | translate: translation help, statement

English:
  • Languages: cs, en-3, pl-3, sk-2, eo-2, ru-1, de-1
  • Personal info: statement here

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